WHY I'M EX-PCG

 

WHY I'M EX-PCG

WHY I’M EX-PCG

A Song I Made For This Letter

Another Song I Made For This Letter

By Dan Moffett

My wife never wanted to be part of the Philadelphia Church of God. She attended because I did. During those years, we had painful experiences with the man who later became the regional director in our area.

Then my wife died suddenly from a brain aneurysm.

Her death devastated me. At first, I hardly cared whether I lived or died. I did not even want to go home. What brought me home was knowing that my two sons, who still lived there, needed their father.

At a time when I desperately needed compassion, I felt very little from the church leadership. The regional director did not want to conduct her funeral. During the announcements at Sabbath services, the local minister said only a few words about her death. He told me the director had forbidden him from saying more because it was the Sabbath and would be inappropriate.

I was too overwhelmed with grief to argue. I brought photographs of my wife and placed them on a table. She had been my companion for decades, and I wanted her life to be remembered.

A few weeks later, our first grandchild was born.

That day was both beautiful and heartbreaking. My wife had looked forward so much to becoming a grandmother, but she was not there to hold that baby.

When I held my grandchild, something changed inside me. I knew I wanted to live. I wanted to see this child grow up, and I knew I needed to improve my health to give myself that chance.

Over the next two years, I lost 160 pounds. Eventually, I began to believe that I was not too old to find companionship again.

There were no single women in my congregation, so I traveled to meet people. My minister cautioned me against traveling too much and reminded me that my local congregation was where I belonged.

A friend who was a minister told me about a single woman in his area. She was a schoolteacher, close to my age, and someone he thought I should meet.

I went to visit, and we connected. We began spending time together, traveling back and forth to see each other. Sometimes I stayed in her area for a week so we could visit every day.

We grew close and believed we were in love. We began talking about marriage.

During that relationship, we became sexually intimate. We understood that this went against the beliefs we professed, and we agreed that it would not happen again before marriage. I take responsibility for my part in that decision.

One day, my minister called while she was visiting me. He asked whether we were in love and wanted to marry. I answered yes to both questions.

After he spoke with the regional director, I was told that we should stop spending time together until the ministers had met her.

She came to meet the local minister, but afterward she was so frightened that we stopped seeing each other for a time. When several difficult things happened in her life, she came to believe they were punishment for what we had done. The guilt weighed heavily on both of us, and we ended the relationship.

That was another painful loss, but I tried to move forward.

Later, I went on a few dates with another woman. There was no sexual involvement. We had not even kissed. I was determined not to repeat my earlier mistake.

That year, I arrived a few days early for the Feast of Tabernacles. While walking through the hotel, I encountered the woman from my first relationship.

We went to dinner. She began crying and told me she still loved me and wanted to marry me. I told her I felt the same way.

The second woman was also attending the Feast. When she learned that the first woman was there, she went to the regional director. I was then instructed not to see either woman until he spoke with me.

He arranged meetings with all three of us, speaking with the women first. When I saw the first woman come out crying, I feared what was ahead.

During my meeting, he questioned me about our relationship. I explained that we had dated, wanted to continue seeing each other, and hoped to receive counseling for marriage.

He pressed for more details. I admitted that we had been intimate. When he asked directly whether we had had sex, I answered honestly.

He called me a “sexual predator.”

I was stunned. I told him that, in 38 years, I had been sexually involved with only one woman besides my deceased wife. I asked whether that made me a sexual predator.

He said yes.

Then he asked whether I had had sex with the second woman. I told him no and explained that we had not even held hands or kissed.

He insisted that I had. He said “NO YOU HAD SEX WITH HER”

I denied it again, but he repeated the accusation. It was deeply disturbing to tell the truth and have a minister insist that I was lying.

He then questioned me about pornography and masturbation. I felt humiliated by the direction the meeting had taken.

The local minister sat quietly with a distressed expression. I cannot know what he was thinking, but I felt very alone.

The first woman and I were suspended immediately, and I was ordered to leave the Feast.

I left early the next morning. As I passed her hotel room, I noticed a bill beneath her door and thought she might also be leaving.

About an hour into my drive, I stopped at a Walmart and called her. She had traveled to the Feast with another family, and I was concerned that she might not have money or transportation to get home.

She did not answer, so I left a message offering to send money if she needed help.

After she reported that call to the minister, he called me and said I would be “marked” for contacting her.

When the regional director called, I asked whether I could receive counseling. He told me I was out, no longer a member.

After more than 33 years of involvement in the church community, I asked, “That’s it? No counseling? No second chance?”

He told me not to call again.

He also said he was having to put out many people in the region. To me, he spoke as though the burden was his, while the people losing their relationships and community were given little consideration.

I had devoted decades of my life to that religious community and raised four children within it. Two had attended Armstrong College.

Now I felt discarded.

The emotional consequences were severe. I went through a period of profound despair and did not know how I would recover.

Then the separation reached into my family.

My daughter who lived with me was required to leave home. My other daughter and my granddaughter were forbidden from seeing me. My son at Armstrong College was not allowed to have contact with me.

Losing church membership was painful. Losing contact with my children and grandchild was far worse.

Thankfully, one of my daughters and her husband decided to leave the PCG. They saw what had happened and would not participate in keeping their daughter from her grandfather.

My youngest son also remained with me. What he witnessed damaged his confidence in religion and caused him to question whether God existed. That was another heartbreaking consequence.

I wrote to Gerald Flurry, whom the church called “That Prophet,” explaining what had happened.

I never received an answer.

I later learned through my son-in-law that the regional director knew about the letter and had accused me of lying to Flurry. That director was Cal Culpepper.

I have described these events as I experienced and remember them. I acknowledge my own mistakes. What I cannot accept is the humiliation, the accusations I denied, the refusal to offer further counseling, and the separation of my family.

In time, I began rebuilding my life.

I made friends among people we had been taught to avoid. I discovered kindness, generosity, and genuine concern outside the church community. Those friendships helped me recover.

At the time I first wrote this account, my daughter, son-in-law, two granddaughters, and youngest son were part of my life. Their love helped me move forward. We continued to grieve the separation from my other two children who remained in the PCG.

My hope was—and remains—that our family could be reunited.

I share this account because decisions made by religious leaders can have lasting consequences. Behind every suspension, expulsion, and no-contact instruction are real people: parents, children, grandparents, and grandchildren.

This is why I’m ex-PCG. 


An update, fourteen years later

Since I first wrote this letter fourteen years ago, my youngest son has died by suicide.

I believe he never fully recovered from the loss of contact with his only brother and his sister. They were still alive, but the separation meant they were no longer part of his life. I cannot know everything that contributed to his death, but I believe that unresolved grief weighed heavily on him.

When I wrote this account, I still hoped our family would be reunited. Now I carry the sorrow of knowing that, for my youngest son, that reunion can no longer happen in this life.

I continue to hope for contact with my other children. I also hold to the hope of the resurrection, when I believe I will see my youngest son again.

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If all this has happened to me, just one person.

Imagine how many other people have had their lives ruined by this evil controlling cult church. 

This site has been warning of this group for over 33 years. You will find hundreds of damaged lives, broken marriages, destroyed families and even member and ex member suicides.  Exit And Support Network

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A Song I Made For This Letter

Another Song I Made For This Letter

The Philadelphia Church of God (PCG), RULE OF SEVEN

 


PCG Rule of 7

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The Philadelphia Church of God (PCG) “Rule of 7”: 

When Even Dinner Required Supervision

One thing we enjoyed during my years in the Philadelphia Church of God (PCG) was eating together. Almost every Sabbath, many members of our congregation would meet at a local restaurant after services. It was an opportunity to visit, share a meal, and enjoy one another’s company.

Then something changed.

One Sabbath, someone asked which restaurant we were going to. I told them and went ahead to save some seats. My family of six sat down, expecting others to join us.

No one came.

I thought it was strange, but when the same thing happened the following week, I began asking why nobody was joining us anymore.

That was when I was told the church had implemented what they called “the rule of 7.” As it was explained to me, if more than seven members gathered together at any time, a minister had to be present.

I asked the minister about it, and he confirmed the ruling.

With six people in my family, just two other members joining us would put us over the limit. What had been an ordinary meal among friends now required ministerial supervision.

What troubled me was not simply missing dinner companions. It was realizing that the church’s control extended beyond services and into our personal friendships. Why should members need a minister present just to share a meal?

To me, this was another example of the controlling culture I experienced in the PCG. Even something as simple as eating together became subject to a rule.

More important than The Rule of 7  


The rule is interesting because eating out on the Sabbath was breaking an even more important rule … it was breaking Yahweh’s Law of remembering and keeping the 7th day Sabbath. And the Philadelphia Church of Gods concern was controlling who and how many were at a table being served.


We were like sheep going astray or more accurately … 

we were being led astray by a false church.

Yahweh has delivered me and many others from Gerald Flurry’s sword. That deliverance was and is a great inspiration and has led many to understand how we are to bring every thought and issue to Yahweh never try to work through anything on our own. Allow Him to show us His will….look at the message not necessarily the messenger. 


The trials of belonging to what I came to regard as a controlling cult church—even fellowship came with a head count.

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Imagine how many other people have had their lives ruined by this evil controlling cult church. 

This site has been warning of this group for over 33 years. You will find hundreds of damaged lives, broken marriages, destroyed families and even member and ex member suicides.  Exit And Support Network

The Philadelphia Church of God (PCG), RULE OF SEVEN (SONG)




[Verse 1]
After Sabbath services, we’d head on down to eat,
Swap a little conversation, save our friends a seat.
My family numbered six; we settled in a row,
I told ’em where to find us—but nobody showed!

[Verse 2]
Next week, same restaurant, same six sitting there,
Plenty on the menu, plenty empty chairs.
I asked, “Where’s everybody?” They finally let me know:
“More than seven need a minister wherever members go!”

[Chorus]
Pass the gravy—call the minister!
Someone’s coming through the door!
Six of us and two more friends—
We need supervision for!
Seven can enjoy their supper,
Eight needs someone keeping score.
Pass the gravy—call the minister!
There’s a head count at the door!

[Verse 3]
I asked the minister about it; he said the rule was true.
I said, “We’re ordering dinner—what’d you think we’d do?”
We weren’t planning revolution, just a little bite to eat,
But apparently rebellion starts when friends pull up a seat!

[Chorus]
Pass the gravy—call the minister!
Someone’s coming through the door!
Six of us and two more friends—
We need supervision for!
Seven can enjoy their supper,
Eight needs someone keeping score.
Pass the gravy—call the minister!
There’s a head count at the door!

[Bridge]
The waitress asked, “How many?”
I said, “That’s hard to say.
One more friend is fine—
But two? We’d better pray!
Do you have a table handy
For a minister tonight?
We’ve got eight hungry people,
And we’d like to take a bite!”

[Outro]
That’s my PCG dinner story,
And the lesson still holds true:
When fellowship comes with a head count,
There’s more being served than stew!

[Spoken, amused]
“Table for eight?”
“Certainly, sir.”
“Good. Does it come with a minister?”



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Fourteen Common Christian Teachings That Deserve Scriptural Examination

 

Fourteen Common Christian Teachings That Are WRONG


Fourteen Common Christian Teachings That Deserve Scriptural Examination.

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT TRUE, 

NOT IN THE BIBLE.

A teaching does not become true simply because it is popular, traditional, or repeated from a pulpit. These beliefs are taught in many Christian traditions, but each should be examined against Scripture:


1. You have an immortal soul.

2. You are saved.

3. You are born again.

4 Once saved always saved.

5. God is a trinity.

6 The Holy Spirit is a part of the Godhead

7 At death good people go to heaven.

8. At death bad people go to hell.

9. Sunday is the Sabbath

10. God changed Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

11. The commandments have been done away with.

12. “Jesus” kept the law for us.

13.”Jesus” kept the Sabbath for us.

14. Pre Tribulation Rapture


There are more but these are the main LIES that most believe. 


I have included an in-depth Bible study on each of these points, here on my Called & Chosen Blog. I have over over 300 posts.

Find a study. Get your Bible out and read along with it


HOW THOSE WHO OBEY ESCAPE DECEPTION (song)



AT THE TIME OF JACOB’S TROUBLE

 


THE TIME OF JACOB’S TROUBLE


Scripture tells of the Time of Jacob's trouble and why white western nations are being destroyed by invaders


The Bible is a book written about and to one family. The family of Jacob, renamed Israel. 

Other nations are mentioned only as they come into contact with Israel

The “time of Jacob’s trouble” is a period of severe distress for Israel described in Jeremiah 30:7, followed by Yahweh’s deliverance and restoration. Scripture and history establishes that white western nations are Jacob’s descendants and that present-day immigrant invasion fulfills this prophecy. 

1. What Jeremiah calls “Jacob’s trouble”

“Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.”
—Jeremiah 30:7, KJV

Jacob was renamed Israel (Genesis 32:28). His descendants became the tribes of Israel. Jeremiah identifies the people addressed:

“These are the words that Yahweh spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.”
—Jeremiah 30:4, divine name rendered as Yahweh

The chapter describes terror and suffering, but it also promises that Yahweh will break their bondage (Jeremiah 30:5–8). The trouble is not the end of the story: “he shall be saved out of it.”

2. Why does this trouble come?

Jeremiah connects the suffering with Israel’s own sins:

“Because thy sins were increased, I have done these things unto thee.”
—Jeremiah 30:15

The covenant warnings in Deuteronomy 28 provide related background. Israel was warned that disobedience could bring:

  • Defeat before enemies: Deuteronomy 28:25.
  • Others consuming the fruit of their labor: Deuteronomy 28:30–33.
  • An outside nation attacking them: Deuteronomy 28:49–52.
  • Exile and scattering: Deuteronomy 28:63–67.


3. Does this refer to a future great tribulation?

Jeremiah’s language speaks about an unparalleled day of trouble with:

  • Daniel 12:1: an extraordinary time of trouble, followed by deliverance.
  • Matthew 24:21–22: Yeshua describes great tribulation and says those days will be shortened.
  • Jeremiah 30:9: restored Israel will serve Yahweh and “David their king,” whom Yahweh will raise up.

These connections support a reading that looks toward a future crisis and restoration under the Messiah.

Jeremiah refers to the United States, Britain, or other modern Western nations.

4. We say this explains “white Western nations being destroyed by invaders”

This identifys Britain with Ephraim, America with Manasseh, and other predominantly white nations with the remaining tribes and is called British Israelism by traditional Christianity.

Deuteronomy 28:49–52 describes military attack and siege.
—Leviticus 19:34

5. The central message is correction, deliverance, and restoration

Yahweh promises:

“I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds.”
—Jeremiah 30:17

Jeremiah 30:11 speaks of correction, while Jeremiah 31:31–34 promises a renewed covenant with Israel and Judah, with Yahweh’s law written in their hearts.

A Scripture-grounded conclusion would be:

“The time of Jacob’s trouble describes terrible distress for the white western nations of Israel, associated with sin and followed by Yahweh’s deliverance. It warns us to repent and trust Him.

For more information on the “Lost Tribes of Israel” see my studies:

The "Lost Ten Tribes of Israel


WHY? WHO? WHAT Is Next?


PROOF WE ARE LIVING IN “THOSE DAYS”

That PCG Minister Freaked Me Out (song)



What happened when a couple Philadelphia Church of God ministers came to my house. (song)

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[Verse 1]
Two ministers came calling,
Pulled up a couple chairs.
Said, “We need a contact person,
But you haven’t been upstairs.”
I said, “I missed some services,
Been sick and feeling rough.”
I thought that might explain it—
But things got mighty tough!

[Verse 2]
The younger fellow leaned toward me,
And then, to my surprise,
All I saw were two big whites
Where he normally kept his eyes!
I sat there staring back at him,
My thoughts began to race:
“Is this a church appointment,
Or an audition taking place?”

[Chorus]
That minister freaked me out!
What was that all about?
I came to talk attendance,
Now I’m checking my way out!
I’d seen that look in movies,
With the scary music loud—
But sitting in my living room?
That minister freaked me out!

[Verse 3]
He did it twice—I’m telling you,
Once would’ve been enough!
I’d already said that I was sick;
This wasn’t helping much!
They wanted me for contact man,
To answer every call—
But after that strange interview,
I might not answer at all!

[Bridge]
I told the older minister
What I had seen that day.
He called it “demon possession”—
Well, what was I to say?
Then someone said, “He did that here!”
I nearly dropped my cup:
“Well, if that’s how he visits folks,
Give warning coming up!”

[Final Chorus]
That minister freaked me out!
What was that all about?
I came to talk attendance,
Now I’m checking my way out!
Next time you need a contact man,
Just mail the forms on out!
Two visits from those eyeballs—
That minister freaked me out!

[Spoken Outro]
“I missed church because I was sick.
That visit sure didn’t cure me!”
[End]

What happened when a couple Philadelphia Church of God ministers came to my house. (song)

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THE PCG DATING COMMITTEE (SONG)

THE PCG DATING COMMITTEE


THE PCG DATING COMMITTEE (SONG)

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[Verse 1]
A few years after losing my wife,
I took a small step back into life.
Met a lady, had a date or two—
Then the church committee came into view!

The minister’s wife had things to say,
And another man to send her way.
My lady said, “This feels all wrong.”
Well, that’s where trouble joined the song!

[Chorus]
Oh, the PCG dating committee,
Making romance mighty tricky!
I thought a date took only two—
Turns out the ministry comes along too!
Bring your smile and a cup of tea,
Then submit your heart for a committee decree!

[Verse 2]
I told the minister, “Now listen here,
Your wife’s advice is getting weird.
My late wife shouldn’t be discussed
To steer this lady away from us.”

He said, “My wife’s my ministry!
Criticize her, you criticize me!
And criticize me—well, there you go—
You’re criticizing God, you know!”

[Chorus]
Oh, the PCG dating committee,
Making romance mighty tricky!
I asked for manners, plain and small—
He made it a heavenly conference call!
From “Please don’t meddle” to the throne—
That’s quite a climb for a dating phone!

[Bridge]
I didn’t ask to change the creed,
Just a little privacy—that’s all I need!
But somewhere in that grand reply,
A simple date became sky-high!

[Final Verse]
Then came the word: “You’re out the door!
Don’t contact us anymore!”
No chance to counsel, no chance to stay—
That’s how they settled my dating day!

[Final Chorus]
Oh, the PCG dating committee,
Making romance mighty tricky!
I went looking for company,
And got dismissed from the PCG!
One little date, one big decree—
Next time, save a table just for three:
Me, my lady…
And some PRIVACY!

THE PCG DATING COMMITTEE (SONG)

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DATING IN THE PCG. Controled by the Minister


Dating In The PCG

DATING IN THE PCG. 
Controled by the Minister


A few years after my wife died, I began dating again. I met a lady in another congregation of the Philadelphia Church of God (PCG), and we started seeing each other.

After a few dates, she told me that the minister’s wife had been talking to her about my deceased wife. She also said the minister’s wife had recommended that she date another single man in the church instead. These conversations made her uncomfortable, and she felt I should know about them.

I raised the matter directly with the minister, a man from my home congregation whom I had known for years. I told him I thought it was inappropriate for his wife to discuss my deceased wife with the woman I was dating and to interfere in our relationship.

He became very offended. He told me that his wife was part of his ministry: if I criticized her, I was criticizing him, and if I criticized him, I was criticizing God.

That response troubled me. I had brought him a personal concern about his wife’s conduct. Instead of addressing that concern, he treated my criticism as criticism of God Himself.

Not long afterward, I was put out of the church without an opportunity for counseling or further discussion. I was told that I was no longer a member of the PCG and that I was never to contact them again.

I raised a concern about interference in my personal life, received a response that placed the minister’s authority beyond criticism, and was subsequently excluded without an opportunity to resolve the matter.

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If all this has happened to me, just one person.

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LAWLESSNESS

  LAWLESSNESS The mystery already at work Opening reading — 2 Thessalonians 2:1–12 “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work.” — 2 Thes...